Does anyone know how to...?
Does anyone know what type of practice or work out one can do to get good timing on ones serve?
I've watched a lot of videos but can't get my timing right with my arm and feet.
I would like to develop a faster serve. I watched a youtube video of Rafa who added 19mph on his serve in 2010 just by bending his elbow quicker in trophy position.
Any tips?
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Permalink Reply by Tim Prapong on
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Rafa had to fix his trophy position by pointing the tip of the racquet towards the net, but has opted to his old trophy where the tip points to the back fence.
If you think about this, the tighter the trophy, the quicker the release. The backscratch loop will be narrower.
Are you cartwheeling much?
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Permalink Reply by Maybe brown on
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What do you mean by cartwheeling? I've read about it before, but I'm not 100% on the term.
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In general, the right shoulder attempts to go up and over where the left shoulder was when it was extended after the toss. What really happens is the left shoulder slides out and to the left to accommodate the right shoulder "leapfrog". I think it is really well explained in revolutionarytennis.com.
But here is a very good example of the cartwheel method. Watch Krajicek hit his flat bombs:
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Revilutiontennis.com is a pretty good site. It helped me with my serve today.
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Revolutionarytennis.com... yup. Good for alot of the basics. A little old school, but cool.
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Im going to try that tomorrow.
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Permalink Reply by CoachV - William Vazquez on -
Toss one ball and hit with another ball or Toss the ball to your playing hand and catch above your head.
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Thanks, I've been doing a lot of research, I wasn't pushing out my hip, not pulling my right shoulder back even more. It's working, unjust need to get muscle memory on those two things and then I'll move on to other mechanics
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I didn't even see your link the first time, I'm on my phone. Thanks for the video, do you have more?
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Permalink Reply by Jordan McDonald on
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Everyone has their own slightly different variation on their wind up. You may want to try breaking down your motion at first and put a towel on the ground at the service line and kneel down on th right knee to serve from there with the racket already on their back. That simplifies the motion taking the legs out of the equation for the time being. Then it should be simpler to work on timing and the position of the ball toss, especially on developing a lethal second serve. I hope that helps. If your having trouble incorporating your legs into the serve watch how Rodger warms up his serve in practice an how much his body turns around his torso so that his left side is almost moving away from the ball (with an axis down his spine) as he is about to hit it. Its a balancing twisting motion and that will help avoid muscling the ball and it will give everything alot more pace if you can incorporate that body turn. That turning, torquing motion is why the racket moves faster when the elbow is bent in to start off with not so much the jumping. Before Rafa was muscling the ball over and stressing out his shoulder while not even getting much pace on the ball. Does that make sense?
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Permalink Reply by LuvTennis on
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Good timing will not necessarily guarantee a faster serve. It will probably lead to more consistent serve.
One simple tip for a faster serve is "start loose, finish loose". Make sure you start your serve prep motion with a loose arm, and finish the motion with loose arm. Hold your grip loosely and only tighten it on your upswing before contact with the ball. Complete the follow through motion all the way around your left hip. Many players appear to 'finish' the motion (or 'think' they 'finish' the motion), but in many cases the follow through can actually go a little more to their left hip. That extra finish gives you a bit more speed and that extra finish distance can only be achieved when you're swinging with very loose arm.
The other factor that limits speed is that some people get out of the 'trophy position' a little too fast when the ball is up on the peak of the toss. Holding that trophy position with your right hand just a tad longer allows you to get that whipping motion with your right arm where you will get your racquet to your back (nearly touching your spine) and then whipping it up hitting through the ball. The wrist pronation will also add a few mph.
I hope that helps you.
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