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I think so, BUt I need lots of money.
Chris Hsu said:maybe you have a chance on tour too since u r advocating serving in the 2 digits
CoachV - William Vazquez said:Agassi's serve average in 2005 US-OPEN was 90 mph he only hit it hard in the final against federer. and if Nadal's second serve is only 80 and consistently beats Federer then yes he must be doing something right or you can look at it this way... you might still have a chance on the tour.
Chris Hsu said:For those of you who think Nadal is great.
I just have 1 question for you.
How can you be considered great when your 2nd serve is in the 80's? That's like saying I am a great basketball player but I can't even touch the rim.
Serve is the most important shot of the game.
Not only is nadal one of the few pros. to consistantly beat Federer, his serve gets it done. Agassi was not known for his serve. he was known for his quick reflexes and his consistancy in second serves and his Return of serve.
To have a game that is developed beyond just an explosive serve is what makes Nadal the great player he is.
Look at Roddick for example.. Roddick for example. He has a Huge serve in triple digits, but historicaly lacks the mobility or explosiveness that Nadal has.
Looking at Nadals Game or any Top 10 player you have to look beyond any signle element and see the players as a whole. Nadal is the whole package.
CoachV - William Vazquez said:I think so, BUt I need lots of money.
Chris Hsu said:maybe you have a chance on tour too since u r advocating serving in the 2 digits
CoachV - William Vazquez said:Agassi's serve average in 2005 US-OPEN was 90 mph he only hit it hard in the final against federer. and if Nadal's second serve is only 80 and consistently beats Federer then yes he must be doing something right or you can look at it this way... you might still have a chance on the tour.
Chris Hsu said:For those of you who think Nadal is great.
I just have 1 question for you.
How can you be considered great when your 2nd serve is in the 80's? That's like saying I am a great basketball player but I can't even touch the rim.
Serve is the most important shot of the game.
he simply needs to win more majors before he's earned his way into GOAT conversation. he's at 8, btw. IMO, he's passed the beckers and edbergs (sorry, guys) and now among the connorses, mcenroe, and lendls (all also coincidentally at 7 or 8). to get into the federer-sampras-laver-agassi (ONLY because he won all the slams) group, he's got to win the Open and maybe another couple AusOpens. his talent level is there - he seems to play well everywhere and his volley is pretty darn good, for a baseliner or otherwise. of course, if he has to quit early, then that'll work against him. of course, borg retired early and is still included in the GOAT discussion....
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