Comments - In a Perfect World: The Tennis Talk, Anyone? Top 10 (Men's Edition) - Tennisopolis : Tennis Social Network2024-03-28T18:43:31Zhttp://tennisopolis.com/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=1869403%3ABlogPost%3A153553&xn_auth=noI knew you would really try…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-23:1869403:Comment:1686382008-08-23T04:42:00.860ZMark / The Mayorhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/archibot
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I knew you would really try to overthink this one. All good questions, but all questions I was trying to ignore!
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I knew you would really try to overthink this one. All good questions, but all questions I was trying to ignore! ok, so what constitutes talen…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-22:1869403:Comment:1680072008-08-22T06:30:22.677Zmikeindohttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/MikeIndo
ok, so what constitutes talent? shot-making ability? flashiness/entertainment value? results? (cuz how could a 'talented' player who loses all the time ever be considered a good/great talent?) it's hard to separate talent from hard work that has paid off. (i think of courier and lendl whose off-court work complemented their talent to beat players more talented but less prepared.) i think nadal should be #2, Joker #3, <i>because their talent took them there</i>. i like Fed, Safin, Gasquet,…
ok, so what constitutes talent? shot-making ability? flashiness/entertainment value? results? (cuz how could a 'talented' player who loses all the time ever be considered a good/great talent?) it's hard to separate talent from hard work that has paid off. (i think of courier and lendl whose off-court work complemented their talent to beat players more talented but less prepared.) i think nadal should be #2, Joker #3, <i>because their talent took them there</i>. i like Fed, Safin, Gasquet, Nalbandian, Murray... as for some of the other more obscure names above, i guess i havent seen them play enough to make a decision on them.<br />
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here's my question on safin: yes, he's a talented player, but is he just another Michael Stich (or pick another equivalent) story who got hot twice (2 Slams) and beat big names en route?<br />
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if including determination? gotta include Hewitt then.<br />
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all-time list? laver, mcenroe, agassi, sampras, leconte (cant deny his shotmaking), roche, ashe, connors... ok, this quickly becomes basically a list of all-time greats. maybe i'll pose this: which players have been victims of the headcases or injuries who could/should/would have been greats?<br />
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(ok, thats enough on this post! :) ) If this is really about talen…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-16:1869403:Comment:1623442008-08-16T00:50:49.277ZPatrickhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/Patrick40
If this is really about talent and willpower doesn't factor, Nadal only squeaks onto the list. In my book, though, age counts. Otherwise guys like Haas and Moya would rank much higher. This is my potential list, if everyone was healthy and fixed their mental games:<br />
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1. Federer - I think his problems since Wimby this year are all mental. I'll bet Mirka is pregnant.<br />
2. Roddick - If he could learn to relax a bit and work the left side of the court, he'd be unstoppable. His backhand is just so...…
If this is really about talent and willpower doesn't factor, Nadal only squeaks onto the list. In my book, though, age counts. Otherwise guys like Haas and Moya would rank much higher. This is my potential list, if everyone was healthy and fixed their mental games:<br />
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1. Federer - I think his problems since Wimby this year are all mental. I'll bet Mirka is pregnant.<br />
2. Roddick - If he could learn to relax a bit and work the left side of the court, he'd be unstoppable. His backhand is just so... uncomfortable.<br />
3. Monfils - This guy has arms and legs to spare, but he plays like a girl. Take a lesson on aggression from Nadal, please.<br />
4. Gasquet - Just a pleasure to see in action. So smooth.<br />
5. Safin - He's still got plenty of game, if he can beat himself.<br />
6. Murray - Unforced errors, anyone? Get it together.<br />
7. Nadal - Good, but it's really his force of will that kills. Intimidation factor +9.<br />
8. Tsonga - Probably the most exciting player on the list, next to Nadal.<br />
9. Djokovic - He's got the goods, but I think he's at his plateau.<br />
10. Blake - He might also be peaking. Great mental game, but does he have the stuff to move up?<br />
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Honorable Mentions:<br />
Baghdatis - Too wild to call it just yet.<br />
Wawrinka - He could come into his own with a little direction.<br />
Gonzalez - Just a bit more accuracy would drive him way up the list.<br />
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Going downhill:<br />
Ferrer - Could anyone be less exciting? #4 and no one knows him.<br />
Nalbandian - He still has a few good years, but not good enough.<br />
Davydenko - Same story. On his last legs.<br />
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Boy... this was fun to think about. Thanks. For me, it goes like this. No…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-09:1869403:Comment:1574122008-08-09T21:31:01.149ZMark / The Mayorhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/archibot
For me, it goes like this. No injury, no headcases, no age - but still playing:<br />
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1. Fed<br />
2. Safin<br />
3. Nadal<br />
4. Djokovic<br />
5. Murray<br />
6. Ljubicic<br />
7. Youhzny<br />
8. Wawrinka<br />
9. Roddick<br />
10. Blake<br />
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It gets tough from 6 on up... Berdych, Moya, and Gasquet all hovering in there too. :-)<br />
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For me, it goes like this. No injury, no headcases, no age - but still playing:<br />
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1. Fed<br />
2. Safin<br />
3. Nadal<br />
4. Djokovic<br />
5. Murray<br />
6. Ljubicic<br />
7. Youhzny<br />
8. Wawrinka<br />
9. Roddick<br />
10. Blake<br />
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It gets tough from 6 on up... Berdych, Moya, and Gasquet all hovering in there too. :-)<br />
M Yeah, that stroke helped get…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-07:1869403:Comment:1560502008-08-07T17:04:07.550ZVan Siashttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/VanSias
Yeah, that stroke helped get him up there in the rankings!
Yeah, that stroke helped get him up there in the rankings! LOVE Gasquet's backhand. =)tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-07:1869403:Comment:1558672008-08-07T06:20:41.831ZChrishttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/ChrisYeung
LOVE Gasquet's backhand. =)
LOVE Gasquet's backhand. =) Hey Mark. Someone asked me th…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-06:1869403:Comment:1554622008-08-06T20:21:37.454ZVan Siashttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/VanSias
Hey Mark. Someone asked me that, too, in regard to Marat and said they'd have him higher as well. I thought about it and figured age wouldn't be a factor, but he still shouldn't be able to jerk those guys above him around the court. From what I read, Marat's Wimbledon win was also due to a little bit of Novak being bitten by the idol-worship bug, so I took that into account, too.
Hey Mark. Someone asked me that, too, in regard to Marat and said they'd have him higher as well. I thought about it and figured age wouldn't be a factor, but he still shouldn't be able to jerk those guys above him around the court. From what I read, Marat's Wimbledon win was also due to a little bit of Novak being bitten by the idol-worship bug, so I took that into account, too. Does age count? Because if it…tag:tennisopolis.com,2008-08-06:1869403:Comment:1550732008-08-06T04:47:38.554ZMark / The Mayorhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/archibot
Does age count? Because if it doesn't, I'd put Marat much higher.
Does age count? Because if it doesn't, I'd put Marat much higher.