Why did USTA switch to self-rating system? - Tennisopolis : Tennis Social Network2024-03-29T05:12:06Zhttp://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/why-did-usta-switch-to-self-rating-system?feed=yes&xn_auth=nowelcome to politics. there mi…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-17:1869403:Comment:10746502013-08-17T19:43:27.711ZCoachV - William Vazquezhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/CoachV
<p>welcome to politics. there might be other factors like tournaments and other activities. LIke here in Atlanta if you are a working teaching pro you must play "AA" which is the highest League level for ALTA. but if you are not working you can play B level. or A level. Now most of it matters on How many good players are in the league. you can get bumped down to play a league if there is no members in the upper league.</p>
<p>so if im a 6.0 but there are no other 6.0 I can get bumped down to…</p>
<p>welcome to politics. there might be other factors like tournaments and other activities. LIke here in Atlanta if you are a working teaching pro you must play "AA" which is the highest League level for ALTA. but if you are not working you can play B level. or A level. Now most of it matters on How many good players are in the league. you can get bumped down to play a league if there is no members in the upper league.</p>
<p>so if im a 6.0 but there are no other 6.0 I can get bumped down to 4.0 so i can play a league. yeah everyone else is toast, but everyone is playing.</p> I don't understand the rating…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-17:1869403:Comment:10745722013-08-17T17:35:48.485ZMatthttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/Matt85
I don't understand the ratings at all as far as when you get bumped and when you stay.<br />
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Last year was my 3rd year as a 3.5 (with above .500 win % the first two years). Last year locally I went 9-1 in singles. My only loss was to a player who went 10-0 and this year at 4.0 he went 9-0. I won the rest of those matches at 0-0, 0-1, 1-1, or 1-2...with the exception of three matches.<br />
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This year we had a smaller league and I went 4-1 with my only loss to a former college player who had appealed down…
I don't understand the ratings at all as far as when you get bumped and when you stay.<br />
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Last year was my 3rd year as a 3.5 (with above .500 win % the first two years). Last year locally I went 9-1 in singles. My only loss was to a player who went 10-0 and this year at 4.0 he went 9-0. I won the rest of those matches at 0-0, 0-1, 1-1, or 1-2...with the exception of three matches.<br />
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This year we had a smaller league and I went 4-1 with my only loss to a former college player who had appealed down to a 3.5.<br />
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Here is where I get confused. The early ratings have been released and I am still a 3.5. However, there is a guy who just started this year as a self-rated 3.5 and his record this year was 3-3 at 3.5 and his early rating indicates he was bumped to a 4.0. Why is this? I beat the same 3 guys he did and we both loss to the former college player. no im still 4.5
But i will no…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-14:1869403:Comment:10732182013-08-14T04:34:24.870ZCoachV - William Vazquezhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/CoachV
<p>no im still 4.5</p>
<p>But i will not play any 4.5 tournaments or leagues. I have an easy time at 5.0</p>
<p>no im still 4.5</p>
<p>But i will not play any 4.5 tournaments or leagues. I have an easy time at 5.0</p> V, the new Early Start rating…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-13:1869403:Comment:10732032013-08-13T21:46:11.378ZMark / The Mayorhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/archibot
<p>V, the new Early Start ratings came out today. Did they move you to 5.0? </p>
<p>Apparently, I didn't suck bad enough this year to move me down to 4.0.</p>
<p>V, the new Early Start ratings came out today. Did they move you to 5.0? </p>
<p>Apparently, I didn't suck bad enough this year to move me down to 4.0.</p> I think the problem was that…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-06:1869403:Comment:10712642013-08-06T20:27:48.661ZCoachV - William Vazquezhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/CoachV
<p>I think the problem was that Teaching pros were not qualified enough to rate a player. Plus the USTA Doesn't have Tennis Pros. So a local group can get a certified pro to rate them lower and win in a area thus creating a illegal business. ( false ratings to win). also they took out the head to head system so getting rated by a pro became obsolete. Even i have been rated a 4.5, self rating system.... I was put on a team in NYC of 4.0, League USTA, I ran into a old man 60, who was a strong…</p>
<p>I think the problem was that Teaching pros were not qualified enough to rate a player. Plus the USTA Doesn't have Tennis Pros. So a local group can get a certified pro to rate them lower and win in a area thus creating a illegal business. ( false ratings to win). also they took out the head to head system so getting rated by a pro became obsolete. Even i have been rated a 4.5, self rating system.... I was put on a team in NYC of 4.0, League USTA, I ran into a old man 60, who was a strong 4.5 player for singles...... I lost the match on purpose because i didnt believe in cheating, the old man thank me for being honest.... our team still won the meet with the exception of my match. There were other sandbaggers on my team.... that was my introduction to league tennis in NYC. But since i lost my match to a 4.5 player and my head to head leaves me at a 4.5 official. im no where near a 4.5 player. I'm closer to 6.0</p> Did that happen some particul…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-05:1869403:Comment:10709102013-08-05T23:12:10.719ZBruce Righterhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/BruceRighter
<p>Did that happen some particular year?<br></br> I remember joining a mixer at Naples Beach Hotel and enjoying the mixed doubles. I was surprised<br></br> to see that they won the National 2.5 Women's championship while absolutely NONE of the ladies were at that level.<br></br>
Next year they played 2.5 again, but ran into a team that had fudged the ratings even more than they had.</p>
<p>That's quite a few years ago, but I think they allowed the club pro to determine the USTA ratings.<br></br> And obviously…</p>
<p>Did that happen some particular year?<br/> I remember joining a mixer at Naples Beach Hotel and enjoying the mixed doubles. I was surprised<br/>
to see that they won the National 2.5 Women's championship while absolutely NONE of the ladies were at that level.<br/>
Next year they played 2.5 again, but ran into a team that had fudged the ratings even more than they had.</p>
<p>That's quite a few years ago, but I think they allowed the club pro to determine the USTA ratings.<br/> And obviously the pro was inclined to rate players "conservatively."</p> This. I totally agree with P…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-05:1869403:Comment:10707952013-08-05T15:31:51.185ZMark / The Mayorhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/archibot
<p>This. I totally agree with Paul. Plus, once you have played a few matches the computer takes over and rates you correctly.</p>
<p>This. I totally agree with Paul. Plus, once you have played a few matches the computer takes over and rates you correctly.</p> I would think it is to make j…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-08-02:1869403:Comment:10698372013-08-02T21:00:43.675ZPaul Schenckhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/PaulSchenck
<p>I would think it is to make joining easier and cheaper, lower barrier to entry. It is also only self-rated at the very beginning I think. The USTA may adjust the ranking as you play in tournaments and leagues later.</p>
<p>I would think it is to make joining easier and cheaper, lower barrier to entry. It is also only self-rated at the very beginning I think. The USTA may adjust the ranking as you play in tournaments and leagues later.</p> My friend formerly played ITF…tag:tennisopolis.com,2013-04-22:1869403:Comment:10333842013-04-22T18:56:41.380ZTim Praponghttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/TimPrapong
<p>My friend formerly played ITF doubles tourneys and is now a ranked 50 and over player, having won two USTA 4.0 tourneys last year. He was rated by a local coach to be 3.0 when he started! Paying for a coach to be rated by a local pro sounds good and all, but if the coach is totally off, that just serves no purpose other than to frustrate.</p>
<p>My friend formerly played ITF doubles tourneys and is now a ranked 50 and over player, having won two USTA 4.0 tourneys last year. He was rated by a local coach to be 3.0 when he started! Paying for a coach to be rated by a local pro sounds good and all, but if the coach is totally off, that just serves no purpose other than to frustrate.</p>