What is your strategy against GOOD Baseliners - Tennisopolis : Tennis Social Network2024-03-28T10:34:29Zhttp://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDear Gary Sakuma,
I've alway…tag:tennisopolis.com,2010-03-07:1869403:Comment:3916942010-03-07T02:32:49.315ZJason Lampionehttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/JasonLampione
Dear Gary Sakuma,<br />
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I've always calculated the movement of my opposition to that of what a movement in "chess" would equate with. I will be more specific later on in this thread. However, to defeat a basliner one needs to rely on several key factors: (1) Anticipation. (2) Strategy. (3) Fitness. (4) Mental Toughness. (5) Preparation. Of course, the list is seemingly endless with having the right skill-set and attributes that you need to be the very best player you can be on court. In this…
Dear Gary Sakuma,<br />
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I've always calculated the movement of my opposition to that of what a movement in "chess" would equate with. I will be more specific later on in this thread. However, to defeat a basliner one needs to rely on several key factors: (1) Anticipation. (2) Strategy. (3) Fitness. (4) Mental Toughness. (5) Preparation. Of course, the list is seemingly endless with having the right skill-set and attributes that you need to be the very best player you can be on court. In this instance, the baseliner is a player that likes to grind-and-grind from various positions on the court. They're strengths rely on being in control of the center of the tennsi court and mastering foot-work, tenacity, mental-toughness and shot foot-speed.<br />
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If your looking to beat a good baseliner at any level of the game just execute the following tips:<br />
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(1) Mix up your shots as much as possible by changing your angles on the court. This will make him or her scramble and most<br />
likely be out of position to react and be ready for the next shot.<br />
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(2) Approach the net no matter how bad you think your volleys are, because the percentages are in your favor to win most points.<br />
Why? Because applying that additional preasure takes him or her out of her comfort zone and will feel chocked when they're<br />
forced to make a better shot to pass you with.<br />
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(3) If you drop shot on one point in every game, I guarantee that you'll be amazed on how many cheap ponits you can win with<br />
this tactic. It is so under-utilized in todays game that I'm just shocked not to see it implemented more frequently on the court.<br />
If your playing a speed-demon, then simply drop shot them, and once they're at net lob over the head and come into the net<br />
and close the ponit out. You win!!!<br />
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I simply just wanted to give you three examples on effective strategy on how to beat a base-liner, also, don't forget the elements your playing in such as the wind, sun and court surface and use these externals to your advantage.<br />
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Here is my chess related strategy:<br />
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(1) Rook:Base-liner/Serve-and-Volley.<br />
(2) Queen:All-Court-Player.<br />
(3) King:Someone that is slow, but effective in shot making; or slow and bad at shot making depending on your opponent.<br />
(4) Pawn: A player that has the potential to be converted into any player mentioned above. This player can be dangerous.<br />
(5) Horse: This player uses angles and likes to taunt their victims by playing unconventional tennis in a very unorthodox way.<br />
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Have a great game.<br />
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Sincerely,<br />
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Jason Lampione.<br />
(2) yep not too many baseliners l…tag:tennisopolis.com,2010-01-31:1869403:Comment:3848002010-01-31T00:56:07.837ZGary Sakumahttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/GarySakuma
yep not too many baseliners like to move forward.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?page=2&commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A384741&x=1#1869403Comment384741"><div>If they are more consistent than you from the baseline get them out of this area, dropshot, hit short balls, most baseliners are not as consistent at net.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Kevin Kauffman said:…</cite></div>
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yep not too many baseliners like to move forward.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?page=2&commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A384741&x=1#1869403Comment384741"><div>If they are more consistent than you from the baseline get them out of this area, dropshot, hit short balls, most baseliners are not as consistent at net.<br/> <br/>
<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A378160#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br/>Learn the correct foundation first!<br/><br/><cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br/><br/><cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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</blockquote> If they are more consistent t…tag:tennisopolis.com,2010-01-30:1869403:Comment:3847412010-01-30T17:19:22.918ZKevin Kauffmanhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/KevinKauffman
If they are more consistent than you from the baseline get them out of this area, dropshot, hit short balls, most baseliners are not as consistent at net.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A378160#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down,…</div>
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If they are more consistent than you from the baseline get them out of this area, dropshot, hit short balls, most baseliners are not as consistent at net.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://www.tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A378160#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br/>Learn the correct foundation first!<br/><br/><cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br/><br/><cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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</blockquote> you can't get around it... if…tag:tennisopolis.com,2010-01-06:1869403:Comment:3795452010-01-06T02:31:48.537ZGary Sakumahttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/GarySakuma
you can't get around it... if they are more consistent then you, you have to shorten the points. I chip and charge, give them no rhythm, and push the envelop...but it's gimmicky...<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?xg_source=activity#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't…</div>
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you can't get around it... if they are more consistent then you, you have to shorten the points. I chip and charge, give them no rhythm, and push the envelop...but it's gimmicky...<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?xg_source=activity#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br/> Learn the correct foundation first!<br/>
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<cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br/><br/><cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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</blockquote> If a baseliner is more consis…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-31:1869403:Comment:3786462009-12-31T06:13:08.018ZKevin Kauffmanhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/KevinKauffman
If a baseliner is more consistent than you from the baseline then get them out of their comfort zone.<br />
So get them to the mid court or net part the tennis court.<br />
If you can't beat them at the baseline then you need to get them off of the baseline or you need to get off of the baseline but playing all court or at the net.<br />
Or even you bring them forward and come in yourself, anything to disrupt them from being in a groove on the baseline.<br />
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If a baseliner is more consistent than you from the baseline then get them out of their comfort zone.<br />
So get them to the mid court or net part the tennis court.<br />
If you can't beat them at the baseline then you need to get them off of the baseline or you need to get off of the baseline but playing all court or at the net.<br />
Or even you bring them forward and come in yourself, anything to disrupt them from being in a groove on the baseline.<br />
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<cite>Kevin Kauffman said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment378379"><div>Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br/>Learn the correct foundation first!<br/><br/><cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br/><br/><cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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</blockquote> Well consistency comes from l…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-29:1869403:Comment:3783792009-12-29T07:29:40.157ZKevin Kauffmanhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/KevinKauffman
Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br />
Learn the correct foundation first!<br />
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<cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br></br><br></br><cite>Martin Daugherty said:…</cite></div>
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Well consistency comes from learning proper stroke techniques. The most consistent pros like Evert and Borg had very consistent shots that didn't break down, so learning proper foundation of groundies is key.<br />
Learn the correct foundation first!<br />
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<cite>Gary Sakuma said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against#1869403Comment377593"><div>what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br/><br/><cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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</blockquote> i was told once over 10years…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-29:1869403:Comment:3783782009-12-29T07:28:32.238ZKevin Kauffmanhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/KevinKauffman
i was told once over 10years ago by an accomplished pro, rally cross court then when get the short ball approach up the line and follow the approach shot to the net and cover the pass up the line...
i was told once over 10years ago by an accomplished pro, rally cross court then when get the short ball approach up the line and follow the approach shot to the net and cover the pass up the line... Strong baseliners are usually…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-27:1869403:Comment:3781602009-12-27T04:37:50.518ZKevin Kauffmanhttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/KevinKauffman
Strong baseliners are usually solid off of both ground stroke sides. Take at the highest level, Steffi Graf, people would say play her backhand, yet her slice was very consistent and she made fewer errors on the backhand than forehand.<br />
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So playing a good baseliner is tough.<br />
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I have found that hitting low and short and bringing the baseliner forward, to the net as the best strategy. This is tricky because if the ball isnt kept low but is short a good baseliner will come in and have an easy ball…
Strong baseliners are usually solid off of both ground stroke sides. Take at the highest level, Steffi Graf, people would say play her backhand, yet her slice was very consistent and she made fewer errors on the backhand than forehand.<br />
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So playing a good baseliner is tough.<br />
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I have found that hitting low and short and bringing the baseliner forward, to the net as the best strategy. This is tricky because if the ball isnt kept low but is short a good baseliner will come in and have an easy ball to attack.<br />
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Also mix up the tempo, do some high soft softs, and then low slices and some hard flat shots. Anything to mix up the tempo so that the baseliner doesnt get in a groove.<br />
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All these things have been said before by people but basics tend to work best. what do you do if they're mor…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-23:1869403:Comment:3775932009-12-23T05:06:15.548ZGary Sakumahttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/GarySakuma
what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br />
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<cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
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what do you do if they're more consistent than you.<br />
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<cite>Martin Daugherty said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment376557"><div>I only play doubles so when I'm at the net the feet are always moving to keep both the baseline safe and the "poach" alive.</div>
</blockquote> that's so true. baseliners no…tag:tennisopolis.com,2009-12-23:1869403:Comment:3775922009-12-23T05:05:59.092ZGary Sakumahttp://tennisopolis.com/profile/GarySakuma
that's so true. baseliners normally are horrible at the net<br />
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<cite>Bob Lovinger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment375790"><div>I try to keep the ball deep and in the corners and sprinkle in some drops shots and short balls until proves he can handle them.<br></br> <br></br> I have found that many good baseliners are only comfortable when they can get planted and…</div>
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that's so true. baseliners normally are horrible at the net<br />
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<cite>Bob Lovinger said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://tennisopolis.ning.com/forum/topics/what-is-your-strategy-against?commentId=1869403%3AComment%3A376557&xg_source=activity#1869403Comment375790"><div>I try to keep the ball deep and in the corners and sprinkle in some drops shots and short balls until proves he can handle them.<br/> <br/>
I have found that many good baseliners are only comfortable when they can get planted and don't like to hit on the move. Also, many like to get into a rhythm so I will mix in the spins to break them of their timing.</div>
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