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Wish I got a chance to see the deleted posts on this thread =)
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No hard feelings Tim.  I'm proud of what I've accomplished, and NOBODY can take that away from me.  You didn't hurt my feelings one bit, I just thought it was kind of funny coming from you that's all.  Maybe one day when I'm in Socal, I'll see how I stand up to your game. If it makes you feel any better to whoop on a measly little 4.0 player, I can be that guy.   :)

Dude, I haven't been on this site because my mother's house is foreclosed and I am desperately trying to find her a place to live. So cool to have such doubting toms attacking me.

Well, my family problems are irrelevant to the discussion. I don't really care.  John is a self admitted sandbagger and if I remember correctly, you were a good player on your high school team. But if that's the case, personally, I'd only want to play 4.5 or more with that background.

I don't personally believe you should rate according to the competition of sandbaggers present. This is what warps the intended original narrative description of what a 5.5 is:

""This player is able to execute all strokes offensively and defensively; can hit first serves for winners and second serves to set up an offensive situation; plays well enough to be a top performer at the state high school championship level; is skilled enough to play college tennis on top Division II & III teams."" 

Well, Mike, I do play with a former Division II college player every weekend and I am better than him. No, John, I never said being able to execute passing shots down the alley off a hard serve with my one hander against Sabrina Santamaria makes me a 5.5. Mike, you can play humble and proud all rolled in one, but it only makes me think you're a sandbagger like John Spoerl. 

The only reason I said I was confused is because John said someone else was #2. You're defensive by attacking me for what I think I am. Real cool. Judging from your pictures and form, I believe you are a 4.5. But nevertheless, I don't send out an accusation and then back it up with a hidden observer. 

Honestly, Mark, I wasn't used to your ball because I had been hitting against a heavier, deeper ball. If you think I am 4.5 or that you are even with me I can live with that. But I believe differently. I told you I was not a big fan of playing "21", but that to me, is not a valid gauge. For instance, I was able to beat Decker on 21 by 21-15, but when we played a set, I lost 3-6. I believe Decker is better than me for sure, but I have great points with him and I can learn from him strategically and technically.

No hard feelings Mike. Just think about how you reacted. That's all. I wasn't attacking you by disbelieving your ranking. All I said was I was confused. Big whoops.

Dude. We are all friends here =)

You must have mee confused with someone. I graduated playing #5 on my h.s. team (it was my second yr playing left handed and my first competing left handed)

Mike, I'm so happy for you buddy.

Congrats!

There are merits to both arguments. My 5.0 team had a match tonight. The singles player on the other team has been the #1 5.0 for like 5 yrs. Our singles guy beat him 6-1 6-1.

Rankings dont count for everything but they are an identity to grab on to.

I don't like golfers who play without keeping score either
Hmmm could that be John L. Dye?
Ya, John is a cool guy but not much of a 5.0 for being the #1.

Im sure that's how most people feel about me being the #1 5.5... vierra, jb, witt livingston, justin garcia are all 5.5's that can beat me just in our little group.

John dye is a good 4.5 and I am a good 5.0 but we are average for the level we are #1 in

That's why leagues are legit.

I can't say I am the best 5.5 player in norcal just bc I have the #1 ranking.

If you want to prove yourself to others get a ranking.

If you want to prove your ability to yourself play leagues.

If you don't compete at all I don't want to hear about it. Tennis is one of the easiest games in the world to talk... its not so easy to play
Yep, birds that sing the most fly the least. I played John in 07 and have to say he is the type I absolutely hate to play especially in 103 degree temp, and he got the better of me, he and Todd W. are pretty similar. Hope to get my game back in shape and play some tournies this summer, my old dubs partner won a 4.5 recently. Teaching less and playing more so hope to get back out there.
Word. I have 3 wins over him. I beat him 6-0 6-0 one time.

We got off to a rough start but are becoming friendly now
BTW you are missed at CSSR Hal.  Everyone keeps talking about how much they miss you.  :)

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